HAN SONG: I could speak barely, I could just say hi, how are you, I'm fine thank you and you? JENNY BROCKIE: Okay, so when you met Sophie how did you feel about her? HAN SONG: Yes, like when I saw her and she wasn't, she was wearing like a beautiful dress, it was like vintage dress and I thought wow, she's beautiful.Maybe I could see her in a movie or something and, but I thought oh well, but I'm Asian, probably she's not interested in Asian guy so I was just, okay, let's just say hi.You know, there's obvious physical attraction of course. MIKE MIOCEVICH: It was in high school at a high school dance and basically the entire year was basically all mostly white people from like, you know, Perth, but there was one girl from South Africa who had come over, her family had come over so, yeah, went to the dance and, yeah, took her. MIKE MIOCEVICH: If I had any kind of reservations before I didn't have any after, so. Sophie Song, you're in South Korea visiting your Korean in-laws at the moment. SOPHIE SONG: I probably have always had more interest in darker haired, darker eyed people, and what I had found, you know, my experience of the Korean people I had met prior to meeting Han was that a lot of them, by their upbringing, are quite family oriented and that was something that very much appealed to me. SOPHIE SONG: We actually met at a pub, we both had gone with our respective friends and we were watching a football final and basically I met him briefly in the queue at the bar.I do find, as your guest I just find that I click a lot easier with, like Rudo that I do with other kind of women and"¦ JENNY BROCKIE: She's married by the way? So"¦ JENNY BROCKIE: So you went to the dance with the one black girl in the school? He just approached me and said hello, he introduced himself and then actually we parted ways but a little bit later in the night there was a guy at the bar who was quite persistently talking to me that I was trying to find a way out of the conversation and really struggling and it happened that Han walked past and I saw him and recognised his face and I thought well, here goes nothing and I grabbed his hand and I said to the other guy: "Hey, this is my boyfriend", and even though Han had quite limited English skills, he picked up what was going on in the moment and he, you know, he acted the part and he rescued me. Han, when this happened in the bar you didn't speak English, did you, very much?JENNIFER LUNDQUIST, UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS: Yeah, well it's an interesting question.
Rudo says itis not racist to be attracted to one race over another, it's just a preference.
JENNY BROCKIE: So when did this attraction start for you, how did it start? JENNY BROCKIE: Okay, I want you to explain to me a little bit more about what it is about black women that you find so attractive, are there qualities that you see that you find, is it physical, is it cultural, what is it? He had quite limited English when we first met but actually he was able to convey his personality and sense of humour really clearly, despite his language limitation, and I came to feel that we had quite similar, I guess, I guess complementing personalities.
MIKE MIOCEVICH: Probably when I was quite young I used to read a lot of books about missionaries and stories of Africa and things like that and it just kind of got me interested. MIKE MIOCEVICH: It's kind of a mix of like the whole lot. But yeah, it's just a whole new, just a big mixing of the whole kind of thing. When did this attraction start do you think, I mean in terms of you actually dating someone? JENNY BROCKIE: Had you dated other Korean men before Han? JENNY BROCKIE: Okay, so had it been a preference for a long time or did you have a preference, or didn't it matter?
I won't lose anything, it was just hi and then she was, she said hi back to me, very friendly, which I didn't expect at all. HAN SONG: Because I was, I grew up in Korea and in Korea, not many Caucasian people in Korea, even though there are some English teachers, I can't meet them personally so I thought they are very hard people to be with, especially as Asian.
So"¦ JENNY BROCKIE: So you didn't expect to date a white woman? So I had a kind of fantasy that I want to date a Caucasian woman. JENNY BROCKIE: But you were going out during this time, yes? JENNY BROCKIE: So it begs the question of what kept you going during the six months then?